
Podcast
My morning with the leaders of Hamas
To much of the outside world, says Ben Hubbard on The Daily, Hamas’s October 7 attack seems like an act of suicide. They knew full well Israel would respond by trying to wipe them out. So what was their thinking? To find out, I went to meet some of the terrorist group’s leaders in Lebanon and Qatar. Its political wing is not that different to any other political party – “they have offices and they have aides, and you call them up, and you take an appointment”. First, I met a group of senior officials at a well-known restaurant in Beirut. Then I went to their headquarters in Doha: a nice villa in an affluent suburb, with “a big wall around it”. Over tea and coffee, they explained their rationale.